In article <3C51DA39.16B6C712@telusplanet.net>, "Steven D. Smith"

<SDSmith@telusplanet.net> wrote:

> I say freedom is an inalienable right

So does the U.S. constitution. It's a nice idea, but patently false.

People are as free as they allow themselves to be, barring circumstance.

> we the people have a right to

> hold in common, but must often have to fight to gain, hold and maintain,

> because others try and steal it from us.

Oooh - bad guys. Boo, hiss!

> I say happiness is an inalienable right

Yes, you keep saying that. Big fucking deal, Stevie.

> I the individual have a

> right to hold in the form I desire, but must often have to fight to

> gain, hold and maintain, because others try and steal it from me.

Oooh - bad guys. Boo, hiss!

> I say Service is via the Truth,

You gonna service us all again? No *wonder* they called you "Steve The

Tongue" in the big house.

> because the only way you can aid a

> person in need is via the truth.(and that means the fullness of the

> truth they are capable of hearing)

So, like if a guy has a broken leg, I should just talk to him about god

or some shit like that? And he'll, like, get better n'shit? Whoooa...

> And if people will not be served via

> the truth, then in their ignorance they stay vulnerable to a lie. Like

> in the dark ages when the common belief was disease came from taking a

> clean bath.

Spread and enforced by the xtian church.

> You say there is no such thing as real freedom, I believe you say

> that because we are not yet totally free.

I am.

> You say there is no such thing as real happiness, I believe you say

> that because we do not know yet how to be totally happy.

I am pretty fucking happy. I'm livin' the good life. And I'm

*bragging* about it.

Gets on your nerves, doesn't it?

> You say you can't serve people via the truth, because either their

> is no real truth, or they can't take it. I believe you say that because

> you will not face this truth, to make your life better you have to

> change and the only way to do that is by looking for truths on what you

> need to do and then following them. To realize you have to follow the

> truth, if your going to be able to live truths on how to be free and how

> to be happy.

You so crazy.

You believe this shit, don't you?. I notice it hasn't any typos - who'd

you plagiarize it from?

> I say the concepts of freedom, happiness and truth, are eternal -

> which means they never change.

Ooh - philosphy! I'm so *impressed*.

> You say they are not real concept but are

> only social statements on how to co-exist and are in constant change -

> which means nothing is eternal.

Basic cosmology, chum. There is nothing that will outlast the

heat-death of the universe.

>I believe you say this because many of

> you are to afraid, hurt or lazy to make the effort. Because if I'm right

> you gain everything, but if I'm wrong you lose nothing.

You've discovered Pascal's Wager, you clever little boy. Don't go way,

we *all* want a turn beating you bloody with the clue-by-four.

If *you* are wrong, and the god you should be worshipping, is, say Odin,

then you are going to be in serious shit when you die. Whereas, *I* at

least would have a logical excuse.

> I say what we have learnt thus far as the human family existed

> before we learnt it, and will exist if ever we lose the knowledge. You

> say the knowledge is found only in us, and is not seperate from us so it

> dies with us. I believe you say this because in your sorrow you have

> lost hope, and for that I am sorry.

Boo fucking hoo. Go cry in your spilt milk somewhere else.

> So I choose not to live in my mind, but in my heart,

That makes sense. There's not much in the way of brain tissue in one's

heart - it would make it really hard to think.

This is an acceptable explanation as to why you are such a prat.

> because in my

> mind what you say can make since,

Since when?

> but in my heart it faids to nothing.

> Why? Because when I look into my wife's eyes, I see a love there that I

> believe I could never have won if I had not changed and become something

> better.

Oho. Putting on the teddy, stockings and makeup hmm...

> And I remember that process.

> I had to learn knowledge, and make it who I was. I had the ability

> to do this to a degree, but I know the knowledge I was aftger was not

> who I

> I was like H.B. is - just dump ignorent trailer trash -

I did. The only ignorant trailer trash woman I was ever involved with

just wouldn't shut up, so I dumped her. I think she ended up marrying

some stupid git of a fundy named Stevie. They deserve each other - she

was an awful lay.

> and that

> was something she couldn't have lived with, but in order to protect

> herself would have had to avoid.

> So I'm thankful that I could learn to value something that I wasn't,

> and say I want to learn to be like it is. And learning how to be free of

> what I was, and learning how to become what I am, so I can make her

> happy and find a place where I am of value because I have found the

> ability to make her happy and for that I am greatful.

She only lets you have $20.00 a week, huh? That's rough, that is.

> An I believe these things are eternal and self-evident and

> inalienble, because in the end my heart tells me they are,

There's another problem. You've got your heart in your ass.

> and that is

> what makes them of such value they are worth living up to, and dieing to

> sustain.

> Now you people may think this is a bunch of crap,

That's what *usually* comes out of one's ass, and you did say you've got

your heart shoved up there...

> but it is just

> these feelings that make life worth living. And if you don't have them,

> well you either seek out the truth and make it who you are, or you stay

> what you are, what I have been - a slave who is miserable and

> miserable in your slavery.

Guess what?

You are *still* a slave. The worst part is that you're a willing one.

The second worst part is that you won't shut the fuck up.

> I have to go away for a few days,

Please - *don't* come back.

> I hope you all have some fun this

> week. And H.B. if your reading this,

If my *what* is reading this?

> I hope you find your way out of the

> darkness - cause it could also mean Happy Brother. Think about it.

I did. After I got done retching, I stopped.